Hosts Jeff Eckart and Jayson Brewer interview Phil Joel from Zealand Worship. Phil is the former bassist for the band Newsboys and he talks about his personal approach to social media as well as his current band's approach to social media. The automatic assumption these days is that if you're going to have any presence in the world, you need social media. But, how can we keep our head's up and see the needs of others when we are so worried about ourselves and about what is going on in other people’s lives?
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