Eric is joined by Jonders to talk a wide range of subjects.
Jonders love of Brett Farve but passion for the Seahawks, and his mind space about the team after a rocky offseason.
What it's like making a podcast that has hosted luminaries like Rich Eisen. Why he advocates so heavily for mental health and his goal for the show.
Finally we finish with a lightning round which includes some nerd talk, and Jonders disavows his narc status.
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