James talks joy, singing, church, Christianity, stress, peace, Jesse Lee Peterson, and Oprah Winfrey. VIDEO: https://youtu.be/jEg2nbIEaxs | Jesse's singing: https://youtu.be/ObY_836vbUg
Caller Brandon of Houston, TX, talked about how the Church of Christ has voices only, no instruments, while others like Southern Baptists are all about putting on an entertainment show. James said his Christian college Azusa Pacific University started to impose gospel music on people that many don't even like! Some sing, dance, and lift up their hands, while others sit quietly — it's a bit inconsiderate to people's different tastes. Singing in church seems to appeal more to women than men — except that many homosexual men are in church choirs.
One woman Patty from Michigan called in and asked that Jesse not change how he does church without singing. She doesn't like or respect Oprah anymore — she used to watch Oprah Winfrey and Ellen Degeneres, but she realized their politics were horrible. James agreed that they're fake and insecure — which Donald Trump and Jesse Lee Peterson both said.
One caller KT of Maryland said the church near him has a rainbow flag promoting LGBTQ stuff, and a Black Lives Matter flag. His old church used to play that Hillsong music that's so moving and touches the soul. But afterward nothing's changed. Hillsong Church NYC with Pastor Carl Lentz, who's friends with pop singer Justin Bieber, is very liberal — lents pushes BLM and refused to stand strong against abortion on The View.
Caller Maze of Dayton, OH, judges James for saying abortion is wrong — she says she's not for it but they have a right to kill their baby in the womb. She tries to call James a hypocrite for being for the death penalty, because the Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill." Caller Tim of Louisiana calls out Maze, saying, "You're of your father the devil." They argue a while, and Maze says whites like James judge blacks and asked why he hated Obama. James said that we hate because we're hateful people — but Jesse doesn't encourage hate or judgment, but only calls out evil.
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