Agnostic Karl DESTROYS Sam Harris :) Implicit vs Explicit Knowledge (Convo)

Karl is an enthusiastic viewer and comment writer on this channel and we finally get a chance to have a conversation. He's appeared regularly on Karen's channel "The Meaning Code". He's got an advanced degree in physics, had a career as a fighter pilot, and engineer and a contractor for the US Air Force. He's quite a guy as you will see. The Meaning Code Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ

Karl, Ira and Karen on Austrian School of Economics https://youtu.be/9OG17kp8FnA

Notes from our talk Airforce, family Grew up Catholic Estonia and France Father’s side lutheran, mother’s side catholic Confirmed Lutheran Always felt closer to religious people than atheist, considers himself an agnostic UC Berkeley engineering physics Don’t feel the need to believe in a supernatural god Sam Harris asserts that if knowledge is not explicit it doesn’t exist Distributed cognition is critical Frederick Hayek economist Vernon Smith economist book: rationality in economics, constructive vs ecological Michael Polanyi Tacit Esther Meek and Dru Johnson Implicit vs. explicit knowledge Vervaeke Jordan Peterson Complex systems, complexity theory Complicated systems, Direct relationship. Complex systems are fundamentally unpredictable by any scientific means Simple complex system, double-joined pendulum, there’s no general equation to figure it out Formally impossible, Stuart Kaufman, Expert in complexity. You cannot reduce the world to physics A system that evolves in response to changes in environment When you introduce self-reference into any system you have bizarre effects Cord Godall Alan Turing Undecidability theorem If you introduce self-reference the system becomes completely unpredictable Physical reductionism and physical determinism are impossible Persons is a story, we are a history, Benjamin Libet experiments Laplace’s demon, you have to tell me before the event Self-reference Valid formal proof that scientific determinism is incorrect Karl Gruner destroys Sam harris Strong distinction between physical and natural “Emerges” from physical processes Game theory Nassim Talib (books in the order they were published) Fat tail distributions Confusing uncertainty with mere probability distribution. Kind of rules to apply to a complex world are very different from the rules we apply to a complicated system. Black Swan event The great danger is thinking you know something that you really don’t Pseudo scientific confidence in our capacity to predict They think they know a lot more than they do. Daniel Kaneman Thinking Fast and Slow, research is excellent but the conclusion is false. He spoke with Talib. Ira Katz Austrian school of economics Anarchists Externalities, imposing a cost on a third party Mark Twain quote “what you know but it just ain’t so” Donald Hoffman’s our senses are not there to show us a picture of reality, but an interface Sensory deprivation tank, nothing will Our senses give us a model of reality Our senses are a way to build a model of our world Multiple senses say that our senses build a model.

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