Conversation with Alain Naudé 5 – Stepping out of the stream of the self

This conversation between Krishnamurti and Naude was recorded in Malibu in 1972. They ask: Is there in us a place where there is no corruption, where there is real, absolute peace and order?

The stream of vulgarity in the world has its source in the self, ‘the me’, the ego.

When there is no self, there is a responsibility for humanity.

What is the relationship between this stream, the self which is perpetuating the stream, and the unknown?

How is one who is in the stream to understand instantly, without going through the evolutionary process?

One steps out of the stream if one denies time, in the sense of becoming, being, achieving, comparing.

Can the mind, without any motive, negate the self?

Alain Naude was Krishnamurti’s private secretary in the 1960s. He met Krishnamurti in 1963 whilst a music lecturer and concert pianist. He gave up his teaching and performing in 1964 to work with Krishnamurti. Fluent in several languages, he was very helpful at international gatherings and in attracting younger audiences to Krishnamurti’s talks, at a time of cultural change in the West.

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