We know him as Mike, a very early Shunryu Suzuki student. His professional name as a quite successful artist is Willard Dixon. He's also an excellent jazz musician, playing the sax. The phone chat is sandwiched between my comments on him and reading from his interview on cuke.com. The podcast ends with a song I wrote in 1978 for a work of his called The Painting on the Wall. - dc
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