Book Appreciation with Anna Clutterbuck-Cook (part 2)
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 110 with Heather Rose Jones
In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting. This time we had so much to talk about we split it into two episodes.
In this episode we talk about:
- What is Anna looking for in f/f historical romances?
- Rich backstories and complex social networks
- The default assumption that women’s lives can only exist in relation to men, and how this affects even f/f fiction
- What were the shapes of women’s lives in history and how could f/f stories fit into those spaces
- The ways in which many popular m/f and m/m historical fiction tropes don’t fit f/f lives and relationships
- Constructing a “ladder of intimacy” for female characters that feels true to women’s lives
- How do historic definitions of “sex” affect how we imagine f/f sexuality in historical fiction?
- Why is actual sex so often absent in f/f fan fiction?
- Embedding sex scenes in the particularity of the characters’ lives and experience
- The conflicting tensions in reader reactions around sex scenes--is it “romance novels without sex” or “non-romance novels with romantic elements”?
- Embedding queer historic characters in a community of marginalized identities
- K.J. Charles and Cat Sebastian as authors creating series of connected novels that build queer community over time
- The misperception that queer “happily ever after” is unhistorical
- Writing characters as part of an existing queer historical continuum--the example of Charlotte Cushman
- Looking for stories with feminism and intersectional identities: non-white characters, disabled characters, non-privileged characters *
- Promoting diversity as readers and identifying our own biases
- Are women inherently uninteresting? The problem of “himpathy”.
- Books mentioned
- All the Single Ladies: Unmarried Women and the Rise of an Independent Nation by Rebecca Traister
- ”A Sweet Yuletide” by E.E. Ottoman
- Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Criado Perez
- Beauty and the Clockwork Beast by Nancy Campbell Allen (m/f)
- Kiss of the Spindle by Nancy Campbell Allen (m/f)
- The Soldier’s Scoundrel by Cat Sebastian (m/m but has secondary f/f couple)
- RWA racism and homophobia letters controversy (blog by Ivy Quinn)
- LHMPodcast on Charlotte Cushman
- Sins of the Cities series by K.J. Charles (m/m)
- Mrs. Martin’s Incomparable Adventure by Courtney Milan
- Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny by Kate Manne
A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Anna Clutterbuck-Cook Online
- Website: The Feminist Librarian
- Twitter: @feministlib
- Archive of Our Own: elizajane