The No Normal Leader special

It's one of those rare episodes where 1) we let others in to the party and 2) JB has to share the mic with more than just Ant!

We're super proud of JB (ex GWR Radio PLC) along with some brilliant co-authors in William Rogers (ex CEO of UKRD) and Dave Coull (ex Group PD at UKRD) with their new book launch the 'The No Normal Leader'

In this action packed hour, the trio (along with Ant's steering) discuss the reality that covid, consolidation, politics create change. But change needs to be accepted as normal. Preparing for a 'new norm', or a holding pattern until 'a new normal' is complacency. No Normal Leadership - should be the default. "Is Covid just a rehearsal for no normal worlds" - have a listen and decide for yourself.